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In the first episode of the otherWISE podcast, Casey talks about why it was IDIOCY to create a new podcast when so many podcasts are created every single day. He also talks about how we need to just "make the thing" and how learning to become more human will lead us towards Jesus. 

Casey and his wife Holley have been married for 18 years and have a beautiful daughter they call "The B." They live in the Chicago area. Casey is an author, pastor, and spiritual director whose books include Becoming Curious: A Spiritual Practice of Asking Questions (2017) and As I Recall: How God Uses Our Memories to Shape Our Spirits (projected 2019)

Music provided by Austin Martin - you can check out his work here

Artwork provided by Eric Wright / Metamora Design

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