Posts in Spiritual Formation
Episode 213 // Alan & Gem Fadling On What Our Souls Love

In today's conversation, we chat with Gem & Alan Fadling about our desires and the 8 questions that reveal God’s work in us. In their new book, What Does Your Soul Love? Eight Questions That Reveal God’s Work in Us they utilize years of ministry, speaking, and retreat leadership to talk about how we find the key questions around how God connects us to the real desires of our lives.

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Episode 212 // Father Albert Haase on Being An Ordinary Mystic

In this week’s episode, the enigmatic Father Albert Haase talks about both the sacredness of the present moment and the life of being an “ordinary mystic.” We talk about his book, Becoming An Ordinary Mystic: Spirituality for the Rest of Us where Fr. Albert gives insightful and practical guidance on how to embrace the life of being an ordinary mystic.

Albert Haase, OFM, is a preacher, teacher, and spiritual director. A former missionary to mainland China for over eleven years, he is the award-winning author of ten books on popular spirituality and the presenter on five bestselling DVDs. He holds a PhD in historical theology from Fordham University and an MDiv from Catholic Theological Union. He is currently serving as chaplain at Cedarbrake Retreat Center near Austin, Texas.

Music by Robert Ebbens
Art by Eric Wright/Metamora Design

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Episode 211 // Bethany McKinney Fox On Disability and Jesus' Way of Healing

In this week’s episode, Bethany McKinney Fox talks about disabilities and what it looks like to pursue Jesus’ way of healing. We live in a biomedical culture that focuses on “cure” - meaning removing the limitations of a person’s disability. In her book, Disability and the Way of Jesus: Holistic Healing In the Gospels And the Church, Bethany proposes seven marks of healing that rise from the life and work of Jesus.

Bethany is founding pastor of Beloved Everybody Church in Los Angeles - an ability-inclusive community where people with and without intellectual disabilities participate and lead together. She is an adjunct professor of Christian Ethics at Fuller Theological Seminary, and director of spiritual formation for new church starters for Cyclical:LA. She and her husband Michael live in Los Angeles, and enjoy exploring the city and making music together.

Music by Robert Ebbens
Cover art by Eric Wright/Metamora Design

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Episode 210 // Catherine McNiel On Embracing the Seasons of Life

After a LONG time away, the otherWISE podcast is back with an episode that I know you’ll enjoy. In this conversation, Catherine McNiel talks about the way we navigate different seasons of our spiritual journey. We talk about gardening and how the writing life informs the way she engages with God in different stages and states of growth. Her new book, All Shall Be Well: Awakening to God’s Presence In His Messy, Abundant World releases on Tuesday, August 6th.

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Episode 209 // Carol Berry on the Compassion of Henri Nouwen & Vincent Van Gogh

In today’s conversation we have the chance to talk with Carol Berry, artist and author of Learning From Henri Nouwen and Vincent Van Gogh: A Portrait of the Compassionate Life.

We talk about the lived, incarnational kind of wisdom that both Nouwen and Van Gogh exhibited in their life and work. Also, we talk about the intersection of these two luminous figures with Carol and her husband’s life in ministry from L.A. to the northeast. Carol Berry presents us with a clear picture of what the compassionate life really looks like by asking us to see things through the lens of the psychologist/priest and the “failed” missionary artist.

Carol Berry is an artist, educator and lecturer at the Vermont Humanities Council. She has also published chapters in the books Compassionate Eschatology: The Future as Friend and Turning the Wheel: Henri Nouwen and Our Search for God. She has an MA in art education from California State University.

Casey Tygrett’s book, As I Recall: Discovering the Place of Memories in Our Spiritual Life, is also available now.

Music by Robert Ebbens
Cover Art by Eric Wright/Metamora Design

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Episode 207 // Justin Whitmel Earley On the Habits That Saved His Soul

Today we talk with author & lawyer Justin Whitmel Earley about the life crisis that led him to develop a system of simple, soul-saving habits. His book The Common Rule: Habits of Purpose In An Age of Distraction is a practical look at how we can incorporate those same life-giving practices into our own lives.

Justin is a mergers & acquisitions lawyer living with his wife Lauren and four boys in Richmond, Virginia. He spent several years in China working with The Urbanity Project and also as the director of Thought & Culture Shapers, a nonprofit dedicated to serving the community through the arts.

We also discussed the book God In My Everything: How An Ancient Rhythm Helps Busy People Enjoy God.

Music by Robert Ebbens
Cover Art by Eric Wright/Metamora Design

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Episode 207 // Austin Gohn & Casey Tygrett Talk About Augustine, Restlessness, and Memories

This week’s conversation is a BIT different as it is an ACTUAL conversation.

Our guest, Austin Gohn, generously suggested that we spend some time the similarities and intersections of two recent books. Austin’s recent book, A Restless Age: How Saint Augustine Helps You Make Sense of Your Twenties is closely aligned with your “esteemed” host’s, As I Recall: Discovering the Place of Memories In Our Spiritual Life.

In this conversation, we talk about St. Augustine and how the restlessness of young adults today mirrors the restlessness of Augustine himself. What might Augustine have to say to our restlessness these days?

We also tap into how memories and specifically the writing of a spiritual autobiography can be extremely helpful to our present and future spiritual growth.

Austin Gohn (M.Div., Trinity School for Ministry) is one of the pastors of Bellevue Christian Church in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He has written for Fathom Mag, Gospel-Centered Discipleship, The Living Church (Covenant), and The Gospel Coalition. Find out more at

One BRILLIANT book we also mention is The Seven Storey Mountain by Thomas Merton, an immediate must-add for your reading list.

Music by Robert Ebbens
Cover Art by Eric Wright/Metamora Design

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Episode 206 // C. Christopher Smith Talks About Healthy Talking

We’ve had a few weeks off from the podcast - did you miss us?

We return with the FIRST return guest of the otherWISE podcast, our dear friend C. Christopher Smith. His new book, How the Body of Christ Talks: Recovering the Practice of Conversation In the Church is a relevant and helpful resource for both individuals and communities.

Music by: Robert Ebbens
Cover Art by: Eric Wright/Metamora Design

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Episode 204 // Kellye Fabian Talks About A Life of Sacred Questions

This week, we talk with author and pastor Kellye Fabian about the challenges of her life and the birth of the book Sacred Questions: A Transformative Journey Through the Bible.

Feel free to stream this episode or subscribe to the podcast on iTunes.

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Episode 202 // Bonnie Kristian and The Flexibility of Faith

On this episode of the otherWISE podcast, we talk with writer Bonnie Kristian about her book A Flexible Faith: Rethinking What it Means to Follow Jesus Today. Bonnie walks us through discerning what is “doctrine” and “dogma” and provides a few examples historically of what it means to interact with each other wisely along the journey with Jesus.

Stream here or subscribe via iTunes.

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Episode 22 // Casey and Phileena Heuertz On the Beauty of Contemplation

In this episode, one of the final two episodes of the season, we talk with author, activist, and spiritual director Phileena Heuertz. It’s an honest and insightful conversation on how the contemplative practices help us move through stages of growth along the spiritual journey with Jesus.

(Photo by Karl Fredrickson on Unsplash)

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Episode 21 // Casey and O. Alan Noble On Speaking Truth To Distraction

A conversation with O. Alan Noble on truth, technology, and bearing witness in a distracted world. His most recent book, Disruptive Witness: Speaking Truth In a Distracted Age is the backdrop for our conversation.

Photo by This Guy on Unsplash

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Episode 019 // Casey and John Ortberg Agree Eternity Is Now

A conversation with well-known writer and pastor John Ortberg, where we talk about his new book: Eternity Is Now In Session: A Radical Rediscovery of What Jesus Really Taught Salvation, Eternity, and Getting to the Good Place.

Photo by Lucas Myers on Unsplash

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Episode 016 // Casey and Seth Haines Talk Seriously On Sobriety

A conversation about lawyers, sobriety, and what we’re all dependent on. Seth is the author of Coming Clean, a 2016 Christianity Today Book Award winner in the area of Spiritual Formation.

Photo by Georgia de Lotz on Unsplash

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